Peter Morgan: The best asset I've ever bought

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Peter Morgan is one of the most accomplished investors in Australia. While he might not be a 'household name' these days, ask anyone who's been around the industry more than 10 or 15 years and they'll likely tell you how he helped build Perpetual from an obscure company managing $70 million worth of perpetual trusts (hence the name) to a $12 billion giant of the Australian funds management industry. He worked alongside investors like Anton Tagliaferro, John Murray, John Sevior, and Matt Williams as they all made names for themselves in the industry.

After leaving Perpetual in the early 2000s, he founded 452 Capital, which went on to become one of Australia's most successful boutiques. Then in 2009, he abruptly left the industry after being diagnosed with a rare and deadly form of brain cancer - a diagnosis that was later shown to be incorrect, but not before a round of chemo.

This experience left him with an entirely new perspective on life, one that valued experiences and memories over gathering an ever-larger pool of assets. Throughout all this, he says the best thing he's ever bought is his dog, Blaze - $300 well spent indeed!


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In this episode of The Rules of Investing podcast, we delve into his incredible story, hear how he manages assets differently now as a private investor, and hear some of his views on markets and stocks today.

Time stamps and discussion topics:

  • 2:26 – Peter’s investing origins at Perpetual and the changes he has seen across finance.
  • 12:19 – Launching 452 Capital.
  • 17:02 – Leaving 452 Capital.
  • 23:07 – Fund manager to private investor - how his investing has changed.
  • 32:08 – Views on the current economic landscape.
  • 41:13 – Are we in a bubble?
  • 47:25 – Which hunting grounds are presenting the best opportunities?
  • 50:22 – His thoughts on Reef Casino Trust (ASX: RCT)
  • 53:33 – Peter answers our three favourite questions.

Content discussed:

  • One Up On Wall Street: How To Use What You Already Know To Make Money In The Market, by Peter Lynch and John Rothchild. Available on Amazon and Booktopia.
  • Zero to One: Notes on Startups, or How to Build the Future, by Peter Thiel and Blake Masters. Available on Amazon and Booktopia.
  • Who the Hell is Hamish? Podcast by The Australian.

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jake basger
fabulous interview, Patrick you gift us with some terrific material. And thank you Peter.
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Rahul Baharawal
Hi Patrick, good interviewing as always. I am a big fan of the series. Peter seems like a good guy and impressive how he has conquered so many personal and professional challenges. At times, it did feel like he is somebody who has missed out on the recent bull run by being too conservative (cash). I'd have liked to hear his investment methodology and tangible principles rather than talking about the current market highs. My two cents.
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Robin Memory
Great conversation. Always find it sobering to hear such an accomplished investor who is so careful with his remarks in relation to any particular investment. My highlight was the comment in relation to not being afraid to sit out of the market a bit, and being patient and preserving capital for better opportunities. There is no hurry. Perhaps we are at that time to take a bit of profit and preserve it for a while? Very humble for one who has seen so much success.
Shawn Burns
Good on ya Pete , like a walk down memory lane
Andrew Maloney
One of the most interesting people to follow on twitter. He likes a good graph.
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John Boardman
I have heard Peter discuss his thought on the state of the stock market a number of times over the years. He never changes his stance of being quite conservative and so likely his returns are low. You can accept low returns when you have multi millions of $ and will never run out of money. Different story for those who must get a reasonable return so their retirement funds last the distance. His comments on how he used to measure a person's success by how much money they had is very frightening, but at least he says he no longer does that.